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We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.

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We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.

    Junking Junk Fees (with Rohit Chopra)

    Junking Junk Fees (with Rohit Chopra)

    This week, Nick and Goldy sit down with Rohit Chopra, the Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, to explore the agency's efforts to lower financial costs for working Americans. From cracking down on credit card late fees to tackling medical debt on credit reports and regulating bank overdraft charges, Director Chopra sheds light on the CFPB's various initiatives to promote transparency and competition in financial products and services. Chopra argues that by advocating for consumer rights and protections, the CFPB is shaping a more equitable economic landscape for all Americans.

    UPDATE: This episode was recorded before yesterday’s breaking news that a Texas judge issued a last-minute order temporarily blocking the CFPB’s plan to cap credit card late fees. Find more information about the injunction, and the Chamber of Commerce’s case against the cap, here: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/11/business/credit-card-late-fees-regulation-cfpb/index.html

    Rohit Chopra is the Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), a federal agency dedicated to protecting consumers in the financial marketplace. Prior to leading the CFPB, he served as a Commissioner at the Federal Trade Commission, where he focused on promoting fair competition and protecting consumers from deceptive practices.

    Twitter: @chopracfpb, @CFPB

    Further reading: 
    www.consumerfinance.gov 
    Submit a complaint about a financial product or service
    CFPB Bans Excessive Credit Card Late Fees, Lowers Typical Fee from $32 to $8

    Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com
    Twitter: @PitchforkEcon
    Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics
    Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

    • 38 min
    Decoding the Tech Layoff Panic of 2024 (with Jeffrey Shulman)

    Decoding the Tech Layoff Panic of 2024 (with Jeffrey Shulman)

    Even though the American labor market is currently stronger than it has been in decades, earlier this year Big Tech companies were laying off workers at an alarming pace. Economists struggled to understand why some 25,000 tech workers were losing their jobs, even as the media panicked about whether those layoffs were a warning sign of an oncoming recession. University of Washington Professor Jeff Shulman joins us to uncover the real reasons behind Big Tech’s layoffs, and to explain their implications for workers. 

    Jeffrey Shulman is a professor at the Foster School of Business at the University of Washington. He’s also a podcaster and filmmaker with a diverse range of expertise in pricing, entrepreneurial marketing, and product management. As a professor, he is known for his innovative research and teaching methods that delve into the intricacies of economic principles and their practical applications in the business world. Recently, Shulman has gained recognition for his insightful commentary on the highly publicized layoffs in the tech industry.  

    More from Professor Shulman:
    Nearly 25,000 tech workers were laid off in the first weeks of 2024. Why is that?
    Why widespread tech layoffs keep happening despite a strong U.S. economy
    How To Succeed In Product Management on Apple Podcasts
    How To Succeed In Product Management on Spotify
    Seattle Growth Podcast on Apple Podcasts
    On The Brink: A Film via PBS

    Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com
    Twitter: @PitchforkEcon
    Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics
    Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

    • 36 min
    How to Build a Just Economy (with Nick Romeo)

    How to Build a Just Economy (with Nick Romeo)

    Journalist Nick Romeo joins us to discuss his new book "The Alternative: How to Build a Just Economy." Romeo argues that the conventional economic wisdom has fostered political and economic instability, resulting in widening inequality, environmental degradation, and the exploitation of workers. He also highlights innovative solutions and success stories—including worker cooperatives, public-option marketplaces, and job guarantee programs— that paint a picture of how we can design systems in a market economy that truly work for everyone.

    Nick Romeo is a journalist, critic, and essayist who has spent years covering policy and ideas for The New Yorker magazine. He also teaches at the Graduate School of Journalism at UC Berkeley.

    The Alternative: How to Build a Just Economy

    The New Yorker: Nick Romeo

    Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com
    Twitter: @PitchforkEcon
    Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics
    Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

    • 35 min
    The Case Against Extreme Wealth (with Ingrid Robeyns)

    The Case Against Extreme Wealth (with Ingrid Robeyns)

    This week, Nick and Goldy sit down with ethics professor Ingrid Robeyns to discuss her groundbreaking new book, Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth. Robeyns challenges the idea that it’s acceptable to allow extreme wealth concentration and inequality to persist, advocating instead for a hard cap on wealth accumulation. Nick and Goldy navigate the moral and practical implications of wealth limits on society, democracy, and ecological sustainability.

    Ingrid Robeyns is a distinguished scholar and Professor of Ethics of Institutions at Utrecht University, and author of the new book, Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth. Professor Robeyns’ research in the field of Ethics and Political Philosophy focuses on issues of justice, inequality, well-being, and the ethical dimensions of societal structures and policies.

    Twitter: @IngridRobeyns

    Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth

    Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com
    Twitter: @PitchforkEcon
    Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics
    Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

    • 45 min
    LIVE from DC: Redefining the Center (with Heather Boushey)

    LIVE from DC: Redefining the Center (with Heather Boushey)

    This special episode of Pitchfork Economics features a live conversation from the "Redefining the Center: How to Make Middle-Out Economics the New Mainstream" conference hosted by Democracy Journal in Washington, D.C. Heather Boushey, a member of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, joins Nick for a wide-ranging discussion moderated by Michael Tomasky, editor of Democracy Journal. Hanauer & Boushey explore the policy initiatives being pursued by the Biden administration that prioritize working families and promote economic growth from the middle out and discuss the crucial role of the middle out as a paradigm shift in how people think about economic cause and effect. This dynamic and thought-provoking discussion was a great start to an outstanding conference.

    Heather Boushey is an economist and policy advisor who serves as a key member of President Biden's White House Council of Economic Advisors and Chief Economist for the President’s Invest in America Cabinet. Prior to joining the Biden administration, she was the President and CEO of the Washington Center for Equitable Growth, a think tank focused on advancing evidence-based policies to reduce inequality. In her role in the White House, she plays a crucial role in shaping economic policy and advising the President on issues related to labor, income inequality, and economic opportunity.

    Twitter: @hboushey46

    Further reading: The Middle-Out Moment Is Here

    Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com
    Twitter: @PitchforkEcon
    Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics
    Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

    • 31 min
    The True Crime of Wage Theft (with Terri Gerstein)

    The True Crime of Wage Theft (with Terri Gerstein)

    In the shadows of corporate greed and exploitation lies a sinister crime that is silently perpetrated, leaving countless victims in its wake—a crime that affects millions of hardworking Americans every year and sucks billions out of our economy —Wage Theft. No industry is immune to this insidious crime, from restaurant workers to construction laborers. On this episode of Pitchfork Economics, we are joined by Terri Gerstein, Director of the Labor Initiative at NYU Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, to unpack the chilling truth behind these workplace crimes, learn who the perpetrators are, and uncover how they get away with it. Most importantly, what can be done to stop them?

    Terri Gerstein is the Director of the NYU Wagner Labor Initiative, at NYU’s Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, which explores and helps activate the often-untapped potential of government in safeguarding and advancing workers' rights. Previously, Terri enforced labor laws in New York for 17 years, including as Labor Bureau Chief in the New York State Attorney General’s Office.

    Crime music bed by Power Music Factory

    News clips from CBS News, CBS Miami, and CBS Philadelphia

    Twitter: @TerriGerstein 

    NYU Wagner Labor Initiative

    Further reading: 
    Prosecute Bad Bosses: More district attorneys are cracking down on abusive employers. It's about time

    Report mentioned in the episode from the National Coalition Against Insurance Fraud: The Costly Crime and Impact of Workers’ Comp Premium Fraud

    The Role of State Attorneys General in Protecting Workers’ Rights

    Report: How district attorneys and state attorneys general are fighting workplace abuses

    More states should follow new Colorado policy on wage theft

    Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com
    Twitter: @PitchforkEcon
    Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics
    Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

    • 36 min

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Great podcast

Having gone to business school at the turn of the century, I learned the typical neoclassical economic view and, sadly, believed it for a short while until experience in the real world showed how wrong it was. The Pitchfork crew’s belief that narrative is key and that progressive policies can win on growth and facts and not just moral arguments is so important at this point in history and can fuel the necessary pushback against the “well it’s just basic economics” lie that neoliberalism has used to sell its worst excesses. For anyone who wants to be able to vote based on economic issues and do so in an informed fashion, this podcast is a must listen as they have amazing experts from all fields come to break down complex issues in a way that makes them understandable to anybody, even if they don’t have a background in economics (or even if they have a background in neoclassical economics…).

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